الأقســـام العسكريـــة

البحرية عز وحرية كتب:: MOSCOW [MENL] -- Syria has been discussing the procurement of the advanced S-300 air and missile defense system from Russia.

Industry sources said Syrian President Bashar Assad was briefed on the S-300PMU2 during his visit to Moscow. They said Bashar has agreed in principle to procuring the S-300 and focused on price and other details with his Russian interlocutors.

"Syria wants a strategic air defense system that would present a major threat to Israeli warplanes," a source said. "I think Assad will buy and deploy the S-300 over the next few months."

The S-300PMU2, known as Favorit and produced by Almaz, has been priced at more than $600 million per unit. The sources said Russia has agreed to reduce the price of the long-range air defense systems in exchange for Russian Navy basing rights at the Syrian ports of Latakia and Tartous.

http://www.menewsline.com/stories/2006/december/12_21a_1.html

سوريا لم يكن لها المال لتشتريه فعرض الروس مقابله القاعدة البحرية طرطوس مقابل تخفيض الفاتورة وتقسيطها
وتوقفت العملية عند هذا الحد و لم تكتمل للضغوط الامريكية

باختصار شديد
1- سوريا ليس لديها الاس 300

2- اي دوله يطلع تقرير انها مهتمه بالتعاقد مع الاس 300 يبقي تقرير مضروب الاس 400 دخل ساحه التصدير

3- الجزائر لسه واخده 300 ازاي هتفكر تشتري 400 وراه مباشره اعتقد ان الطبيعي الخطوه القادمه تكون 500 ولكن بعد عدده سنوات ليكون هناك تطوير حقيقي و الامر ليس عباره عن (زمرده ادخل 300 400 500)!!!!!!!!!!!!!
طبعا اتمني التقدم للجزائر بس انا بتكلم من منطلق اقتصادي عسكري

الطير الحر : صدقت اخي الكريم لكن والله لا اعلم انا رأيت التقرير فقط حبيت عرضه

حفني : كلامك واقعي ورزين وجميل فعلا الجزائر تعاقدت على الاس 300 صعب فورا تتعاقد بعدها على الاس 400 لكن اتوقع السعودية بتحصل عليه والله اعلم لكن المشكلة بتكون كيف بتم دمجها بالدفاع الجوي الغربي مع الاس 400

الطير الحر كتب:: وحتى امريكا حصلت على النسخة القديمة
طبعا تقييماتكم منتظرة والا سأغضب

وان شاء الله S400

اخى الكريم ممكن توضيح بس للنقطة المذكورة بالاعلى وهو حصول امريكا على نسخة قديمة . انا سمعت الكلام ده فى قناة روسيا اليوم ومكنتش مصدق بصراحة لكن ازاى امريكا حصلت عليه وازاى روسيا تسمح بحاجة زى كده انا برده عرفت ان روسيا طورت المنظومة s-300 لنسخة احدث لها نفس المظهر الخارجى لكنها احدث من الناحية التقنية . ولو على التقييم ولا تزعل ليك احلى تقييم

the ghost كتب:: [quote=
اخى الكريم ممكن توضيح بس للنقطة المذكورة بالاعلى وهو حصول امريكا على نسخة قديمة . انا سمعت الكلام ده فى قناة روسيا اليوم ومكنتش مصدق بصراحة لكن ازاى امريكا حصلت عليه وازاى روسيا تسمح بحاجة زى كده انا برده عرفت ان روسيا طورت المنظومة s-300 لنسخة احدث لها نفس المظهر الخارجى لكنها احدث من الناحية التقنية . ولو على التقييم ولا تزعل ليك احلى تقييم

ولك اخي the ghost كيف حصلت امريكا على S300V
وفي انتظار التقييمات

قراءة ممتعة

RIA Novosti
Veniamin Efremov has managed to fool the Pentagon. With dollars straight from the U.S., he designed a weapon that no one still has in the world. Neither the Yankees nor the British nor the French.
But let this first Efremov and unique weapon he created.
The "trick" of Efremov
Who's Who informs us that Russian Veniamin Efremov, manufacturer of the Association NPO Antei science-production, was the Institute of Electronics and Telecommunications of Moscow in 1951, he is a member of the Academy of Sciences of Russia, winner the Lenin Prize and State, and its activities include radar and steering systems.
All this is true. But to think more closely, you will not find in this short biographical note, nothing more specific. For such was the tradition in our country, since they were the sectors most sensitive sectors of defense industries. But we know that Veniamin Efremov, manufacturer NPO Antei general, is the author of several versions of mobile surface to air missiles for the DCA of the Army.
A number, systems as famous as the Osa-AKM (range in distance from 1.5 to 10 km and vertical reach up to 6 km - these batteries were sold to 25 countries worldwide) and the Tor-M1 ( range in distance of 1 to 12 km and vertical reach of 100 m to 6 km, they are also called "systems of tactical surface to air missiles"). Besides Russia, the Tor equip the armed Greek and Chinese. These include systems as Krug and its different versions (range in distance from 4 to 50 km and vertical reach of 150 m to 25 km) and large batteries range S-300V (range in distance from 7 to 100 km and vertical reach of 250 m to 25 km). And, most recently, was born the system of theater missile defense Antei-2500 (range in distance of 200 km for aircraft and 40 km for ballistic missiles, vertical reach of 250 m to 30 km). We known about until now.
An enigma to the Patriot
At first glance, looks good Antei-2500 S-300V, which some people sometimes call the "Russian patriot." Six crawler tractors make up the system, as well as tubes, like those of an organ in a cathedral, and launching pads for missiles identical Gigant and Gladiator.
But the key is elsewhere. Today, the Antei gets much further than its predecessor. It is currently the only defensive system in the world able to shoot, besides aircraft and helicopters (including the Airborne Warning and Control System AWACS and Stealth aircraft invisible to radar), tactical ballistic missiles theater, distances up to 200 km and at altitudes up to 30 km (S-300V batteries the "reached" at 100 and 25 km 'only'). Finally, this system is able to destroy missiles with a range of 2,500 kilometers (hence the "2500" inserted in the name of the battery) and flying at a speed of 4500 m / sec.
This systems Dongfeng China (3, 15 and 25), batteries ATACMS American and French Adès, the Iraqi Scud S and Jericho-2 Israeli and American Pershing, who, like the old Soviet-made Scud, equip still many armies in the world ...
The S-300V "catching up" these missiles with a range of 1000 km and flying at a speed of 3000 m / sec. Even the Patriot Pack 2, be a hype during the Gulf War, can not even indices (maximum scope of destruction is only 40 km with a vertical reach of 24 km).
Modernized Pack 3 would come around 2005, at distances of 150 km and 25 km, while the maximum range of missiles destroyed by starting the system would have reached 1000 km.
But that's not all. It is unclear whether the American engineers were able to eliminate the main shortcoming of Patriot missile destroyed its not rocket head, but in most cases, the body or its engine cruise. That's why the Patriot warheads rate sometimes reaching their target (during the first Gulf War, it was the case in 90% of cases of the 65 Scud launches. During the second war against Iraq, it s 'remember, missed the Patriot missiles that also could not the "right direction", for example, from the sea).
The U.S. system has another flaw: its missiles, which are drawn at an angle to the horizon, can not turn to the target if it happens the opposite side. Thus, for "closing the loop", there must be four launch pads at least. As for the Antei, one is enough. Missiles go vertically, at an altitude of 60 to 100 m, turn to the target.
Something else, perhaps the most important ... The Antei-2500, as, indeed, the S-300V, strikes precisely the rocket head. A 100% in all cases. This system has a single load of action-oriented (no other system in the world has anything like it). What's more, he can shoot simultaneously on 16 ballistic missiles, even invisible to radar. Any other system is powerless Stealth technology ...
That's it. But how did the Russian academician he managed to design this system with American money?
Viktor Litovkin, RIA Novosti
Part Two
You can buy a secret but not the solution
How the Russian academician he managed to create this system and that the money came directly from the United States?
It is clear that neither group NPO Antei nor the Defense Ministry, his client had arranged for a prolonged period of time, money needed. Whether to pay wages, let alone make new weapons. Efremov, but found the solution.
A client, the Department of Defense and the Central Russian arms trade Rosvooruzhenie (now Rosoboronexport) - not forgetting of course the government - he proposed to sell to the American system of surface to air missiles S-300V , the subject for years, missed a hunt on the part of the CIA. According to the academician, was an excellent opportunity for the company modernized the Patriot batteries to finally realize the objectives set by the Pentagon.
I do not think it is necessary to clarify the nature of the responses that the academician has heard from the generals. An eloquent gesture - a finger raised to his temple - their reaction was the least brutal.
At the time, our "experts intox" already tried to "pass" to the Americans via Belarus - albeit with much hype in the press denouncing the "selling secrets to Moscow to Minsk" - an old S -300PMU, development of a competitor Antei, the Consultants Almaz.
But four batteries of a modernized version of the system, S-300PMU1, had already been sold to China and hope was born that this contract would have an extension. But if an S-300V was sold to the Americans, the prospect of continued cooperation with the Chinese might be severely compromised.
A delicate question then arose: if the Pentagon buys a system, why the People's Liberation Army buys does another? Beijing has he made a mistake? It was clear that this question arises. As for the generals, they said on their side as the S-300V is a strengthening and anti-aircraft missile defense in Moscow. "We can not compromise it by delivering our secrets," they explained to the academician.
The manufacturer in turn generally showed that the algorithm of direction of the S-300V missiles can not be decrypted even in a decade and a far more powerful system would see the day before. We did not listen. So Efremov decided to perform an unusual action, very reminiscent of a blackmail.
At his request, the chairman of a parliamentary committee, "noisy and quarrelsome" - we will not name him - appeared before a senior official, on which the authorization to sell the S-300V to the Americans. The MP promised, in case of refusal, to require, before the Duma, the sacking of the head.
The official relented, signing at the bottom of the authorization.
Later, the academician is accused of selling "defense secrets to the enemy" and even "treason" ... The FSB (security service) bring against him, legal action. A major newspaper report that the DCA around Moscow was no longer what it was after the sale of missiles Efremov.
But the S-300V sold to the Americans was brand new. In the presence of security experts and Rosvooruzhenie, the system left the factory where it was assembled. The Pentagon had two batteries (radar surveillance, command post, two launching pads for missiles Gigant and Gladiator). More than 23 missiles on the 144 needed. The total for $ 90 million.
It is true that the Americans were first paid to NPO Antei only half that amount. A game somewhat obscure continued between the Pentagon and the Central Rosvoorouzhenie. It was suspected that the intelligence services of both sides were involved.
It is also true that Rosvooruzhenie Americans did not deliver the radar scan by sectors, the heart of the S-300V. But the academician longer cared.
The money earned was enough to develop its new Antei 2500. Tested, it is fully operational.
PS Veniamin Pavlovtich disappeared on September 16 last, leaving his concepts and ideas he shared generously with his disciples and colleagues. This means that the work of his life is in safe hands and professional.
The opinion of the author may differ from that of writing.

deployment of a battery of 300 V S (chassis tracked)
S-300V:

300V 9S19 High Screen Sector Radar:
S-300V 9S15 Bill Board Surveillance Radar:
S-300V 9A85 9M83 Gladiator Launcher:
S-300V 9A84 Giant Launcher:
S-300V 9A84 Giant Launcher:
S-300V 9A84 Giant Launcher:

المصدر: تمت ترجمته للانجليزية والمصادر باللغة الفرنسية

http://www.armees.com/Comment-le-Pentagone-a-finance-la-conception-d-une-arme-russe,8415.html
http://fr.rian.ru/analysis/20061003/54464142.html

وداعا للاس-300 من خطوط الانتاج ، وهذا بالطبع حال كل منظومة سلاح مهما تطورت ، فمن المؤكد انه سيظهر الي النور الاحدث والافضل منها ويصبح امر انتاجها هو والعبث سواء ، عموما النظام دخل الخدمة عام 1978 اي انه صنع في السبعينات ويقال ان فكرته وبدء العمل فيه كان من اواخر الستينات ومن المؤكد انه ان الوقت لوقف انتاجه مع التطور الرهيب للمقاتلات والصواريخ الجو-ارض .

GeNeRaL_908 كتب:

BM BOY كتب:: لم تشتري من بين البلدان العربية الاس 300 سوى الجزائر فكيف سيشترون الان الاس400

السعودية ما اشترت الدبابة تي 72 روسيا توقف تصنيع نظام S300 - صفحة 2 895794

طيب كيف شرت تي 90 روسيا توقف تصنيع نظام S300 - صفحة 2 73173

السعودية لم تشترى تى 90 او اس 400

حتى الآن ....هم مازالوا يتفاوضون

شيئ عادي و طبيعي و كل سلاح بالعالم يصل إلى قمة الشهرة و بعدها سيتوقف إنتاجه

السبب من هذا الشيئ هو قوة هذه المنظومة و قدرتها على إبادة الطائرات بسهولة و هذا جعل الناس تعتقد بان هذا حدث له علاقة بجودة السلاح

و لكن الأس 300 لن يستطيع ان يبقى قاتل الطائرات للأبد لأن بدأ إنتاجها منذ اكثر من 30 سنة و منذ 30 سنة لم تكون التكنولوجية مثل الأن و الأن العالم بإتجاه الطائرات الشبحية بقوة اي هذه المنظومة لن تستطيع التعامل مع كل أنواع الطائرات الحديثة و هو مخصص للجيل الثالث و رابع اي يجب إنتاج منظومة تتعامل مع الطائرات الحديثة الشبحية و الصواريخ البالستية المتطورة فلذلك روسيا تنتج الأس 400 و قريبا الأس 500 و بإعتقادي بانه سيكون الإسطورة

و بالنهاية تقييم على الموضوع

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الطير الحر كتب:

the ghost كتب:: [quote=
اخى الكريم ممكن توضيح بس للنقطة المذكورة بالاعلى وهو حصول امريكا على نسخة قديمة . انا سمعت الكلام ده فى قناة روسيا اليوم ومكنتش مصدق بصراحة لكن ازاى امريكا حصلت عليه وازاى روسيا تسمح بحاجة زى كده انا برده عرفت ان روسيا طورت المنظومة s-300 لنسخة احدث لها نفس المظهر الخارجى لكنها احدث من الناحية التقنية . ولو على التقييم ولا تزعل ليك احلى تقييم

ولك اخي the ghost كيف حصلت امريكا على S300V
وفي انتظار التقييمات

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متزعلش اوى كده انا نسيت بس اديك التقييم مش اكتر والله

و اللهي خبر مفرح ولا يدل الان علي نفي قدوم الاس 300 لمصر و السعودية و اننا في انتظار الاحدث الاس 400

و طبعا معناه زيادة القدرة لانتاج الاس 400 معجلا بدخوله الاسواق العالمية .

و بالطبع مصانع الاس 300 ستتحول لتصنيع الاس 400

قد كده الناس دى محتاجة مصانع كثيرة لسد حاجة السوق ؟! روسيا توقف تصنيع نظام S300 - صفحة 2 73173

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