Algeria is demanding an explanation from Russia fir the high-level of Israeli avionics in its Su-30 MKAs. It comes after the Islamic state's Air Force started carrying out maintenance on the 1st aircraft, delivered in 2007. The AAF is alarmed that the main mission computer, the nerve centre of the Su-30MKA has been heavily influenced by Israeli technologies & interfaces into an Israel Aerospace Industries Elta EL/M8222 EW system & Elbit Systems SU967 HUD.

الجزائر تطالب بتفسير من روسيا رفيع المستوى للالكترونيات الطيران الاسرائيلي في MKAs سو 30 والخمسين. انها تأتي بعد قيام دولة إسلامية في سلاح الجو بدأ تنفيذ الصيانة على الطائرات 1، وسلمت في عام 2007. وتشعر بالانزعاج من أن الكمبيوتر AAF المهمة الرئيسية، فقد تم عصب من 30MKA سو تتأثر بشدة من جراء التكنولوجيات الاسرائيلية والى واجهات للصناعات الجوية الاسرائيلية ELTA نظام EW EL/M8222 وأنظمة إلبيت SU967 هود.


Real concerns have been raised that the new generation Flanker's avionics could become a target of cyber warfare from the Jewish state in the event of hostilities. Algeria has no test or evaluation unit & took Russia's word that there was no Israeli equipment on the aircraft.
Unlike the Su-30MKM delivered to the Royal Malaysian Air Force, Algeria did not customise their Su-30MKAs to their own specifications, prefering to opt for the Su-30MKI systems that include French, Israeli, Russian & Indian avionics.
There are far-reaching consequences with this discovery, because Algeria is now raising questions about the level of Israeli systems integrated into its newly purchased satellite systems, acquired from Istrium & also many other of its military systems.

هناك عواقب بعيدة المدى مع هذا الاكتشاف ، لأن الجزائر الآن يثير تساؤلات حول مستوى الأنظمة المتكاملة في نظم الاسرائيلية التابعة لها التي تم شراؤها حديثا ، تم الحصول عليها من Istrium وأيضا العديد من غيرها من النظم العسكرية.

Algeria already has a track record of withdrawing from use plateforms with Israeli equipment & then abandoning further dealings with the relevant manufacturer.
2 VIP Eurocopter EC225 helicos, "7T-WVA" & "7T-WVB" were retired, some 4 years after receving them, when they were discovered to have Elbit avionics. They are now up for sale.
The Mig-29 fiasco in May 2007 resulted in Algeria returning to Russia 15 jets & subsequently cancelling the deal, claiming they were of inferior quality. The 2 countries settled their differences & a deal for 28 Su-30MKAs was agreed instead. With deliveries between 2007 & 2009.
Against this background, the future is unclear for the Su-30MKA & other Russian deals with Algeria, including the 16 Yakovlev Yak-130. If Algeria decides to cut off ties with Russia over this latest issue, the Russian Air Force could face major repercussions in its re-equipment plans, as much of the financing of this comes from export orders.


على هذه الخلفية، ومستقبل غير واضح لصفقات روسية من طراز سو 30MKA وغيرها مع الجزائر، بما في ذلك 130 ياكوفليف ياك 16. إذا كانت الجزائر قررت قطع علاقاتها مع روسيا حول هذه المسألة الأخيرة، فإن القوات الجوية الروسية قد تواجه عواقب كبيرة في خطط إعادة معداتها، أكبر قدر من التمويل لهذا يأتي من طلبات التصدير.


Algeria could now start a new fighter competition for up to 60 aircraft, excluding Russia.
AFM Février 2012.



هل تتخلى الجزائر عن السلاح الروسي وتتجه نحو السلاح الغربي بسبب إسرائيل

الانظمة في mka هي فرنسية نفس المركبة على الرافال

ومالمصدر؟[b]

mr abidine كتب:

الانظمة في mka هي فرنسية نفس المركبة على الرافال

الموضوع عن الصفقات القادمة للجيش

مثل السو 30 أس والياك 130

ممكن أن تلغى بسبب التجهيزات الإسرائيلية الموجودة فيها

الطير الحر كتب:

الانظمة الهندية هي تطوير لانظمة اسرائيلية elbit وتصنعها الهند برخصة اسرائيلية منذ 2005
وهذا كان معروفا

إقرأ هذا الجزء من الموضوع أخي الطير الحر


Algeria could now start a new fighter competition for up to 60 aircraft, excluding Russia.

لا توجد تجهيزات اسرائيلية المصدر وانما تكنولوجيا باعتها اسرائيل( elbit) الى للهند (hal /Samtel)

Indian Contribution

The Su-30MKI contains not only Russian, French, South African and Israeli Customer Furnished Equipment (CFE), but also a substantial percentage of Indian designed and manufactured avionics. They took six years to develop from start to MKI. Advanced avionics were developed by DRDO under a project code named "Vetrivale" (a Tamil name for the victorious lance carried by the youthful Lord Karthikeya or Murugan, a son of Parvati and Shiva) in close collaboration with the PSUs and the IAF. Indian avionics have been received and acknowledged enthusiastically by the Russian principals.

The following are the components developed by Indian agencies:

-Mission Computer cum Display Processor - MC-486 and DP-30MK (Defence Avionics Research Establishment - DARE)
-Radar Computer - RC1 and RC2 (DARE)
-Tarang Mk2 Radar Warning Receiver (RWR) + High Accuracy Direction Finding Module (HADF) (DARE
-IFF-1410A - Identification Friend or Foe (IFF)
-Integrated Communication suite INCOM 1210A (HAL)
-Radar Altimeter - RAM-1701 (HAL)
-Programmable Signal Processor (PSP) - (LRDE)
-Multi Function Displays (MFD) - Samtel/DARE

The 32-bit Mission Computer performs mission-oriented computations, flight management, reconfiguration-cum-redundancy management and in-flight systems self-tests. In compliance with MIL-STD-1521 and 2167A standards, Ada language has been adopted for the mission computer's software. The other DARE-developed product, the Tarang Mk2 (Tranquil) radar warning receiver, is manufactured by state-owned BEL at its Bangalore facility.

These avionics equipment have also been certified for their airworthiness in meeting the demanding standards of Russian military aviation. The cumulative value of such indigenous avionic equipment is estimated to exceed Rs. 250 lakhs per aircraft. Since the core avionics were developed by a single agency (DRDO) - they have significant commonality of hardware and software amongst them using a modular approach to design. This obviously results in major cost and time savings in development; it also benefits the user in maintenance and spares inventories.

The DRDO has gone a step further and come out with a new design of the Core Avionics Computer (CAC) which can be used with a single module adaptation across many other aircraft platforms. Thus the CAC which is derived from the computers designed for the Su-30MKI will now be the centre piece of the avionics upgrades for the MiG-27 and Jaguar aircraft as well. The CAC was demonstrated by DRDO at the Aero India exhibition at Yelahanka and attracted a good deal of international attention. Taken together with the systems already developed indigenously for the LCA (such as the Digital Flight Control Computer and HUD), clearly Indian avionics have a significant export potential in the burgeoning global market for avionics modernisation.

The navigation/weapons systems from the various countries were integrated by Ramenskoye RPKB.

HAL will supply components to Irkut for 300 Su-30s meant for export to Malaysia and Algeria apart from those meant for IAF.
http://vayu-sena.tripod.com/info-su30mki.html

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Algeria could now start a new fighter competition for up to 60 aircraft, excluding Russia.

الجزائر قد تشتري 60 مقاتلة لكن ليس من روسيا

أرجو أن يكون كلامك صحيح

حتى لو إشترينا مقاتلات أمريكية فطيّارونا ليست لهم الخبرة في التحكم بها مثل المقاتلات الروسية

حسب راي ياودي كيف كيف تشري من روسيا او. و م ا يعني نحبوا و لا نكرهوا يبقاو بلدان مش مسلمين و يوجد اليهود بكثرة في روسيا

يعني اخرتها طلعت تغريدة هههههههههه
يخي صحافة مخفية يخي

الكترونيات السو-30الجزائرية فرنسية نفسها الموضوع في الرفال+جنوب افريقية
اما النسخة الهندية بها الكترونيات اسرائلية طورتها الهند
كما قا الاخ الطير الحر هده بلبلة من الغرب لدفع الجزائر الى اقتناء مقاتلات غربية
ولقطع الطريق اما السو-35 القادمة عن قريب بادن الله